sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 This might have already been pointed out, but doesn't it give Palace a potential big advantage to be playing their penultimate game knowing the result of ours? All kinds of things could help them, like - If they go into the match one point ahead of us, they know that drawing is no better than losing (as in both scenarios, we have to beat them on the last day), and therefore could play outright for the win. - If they go into the match three points ahead of us, they can play outright for the draw, knowing that will save them. and so on. Basically, the FA wouldn't let two teams' final matches be at different times for this kind of advantage, but surely this should be the case for the penultimate match too?
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) This might have already been pointed out, but doesn't it give Palace a potential big advantage to be playing their penultimate game knowing the result of ours? All kinds of things could help them, like - If they go into the match one point ahead of us, they know that drawing is no better than losing (as in both scenarios, we have to beat them on the last day), and therefore could play outright for the win. - If they go into the match three points ahead of us, they can play outright for the draw, knowing that will save them. and so on. Basically, the FA wouldn't let two teams' final matches be at different times for this kind of advantage, but surely this should be the case for the penultimate match too? We play Sheffield United a day later than everyone else just a game earlier. Probably evens it out. Edited April 16, 2010 by oh_weds_we_love_you
Howard Mosley Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 This might have already been pointed out, but doesn't it give Palace a potential big advantage to be playing their penultimate game knowing the result of ours? All kinds of things could help them, like - If they go into the match one point ahead of us, they know that drawing is no better than losing (as in both scenarios, we have to beat them on the last day), and therefore could play outright for the win. - If they go into the match three points ahead of us, they can play outright for the draw, knowing that will save them. and so on. Basically, the FA wouldn't let two teams' final matches be at different times for this kind of advantage, but surely this should be the case for the penultimate match too? we play after them this weekend
Wednesday-Wonderland Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 We are not the pigs, we don't cry about things being unfair, we just get on with it. 1
sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 We play Sheffield United a day later than everyone else just a game earlier. Probably evens it out. Disagree, as there's no possible way that knowing results on Saturday could possibly change our game plan. But it absolutely could for Palace the week after.
Guest Stereophonics Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 Depnds which way you look at it. It means that we could put pressur on Palace by winning our game before they play theirs. The pressure could be too much for them to handle. Depends on our mentality.
KivoOwl Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 Been saying a while this could have a big impact on things. As a previous poster pointed out - if Palace go into the game a point ahead of us they know a draw against WBA won't change anything - we'll still need to beat them to stay up. So in such a case their entire game plan will be to win the game at all costs. A defeat is just as good as a draw.
sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 Been saying a while this could have a big impact on things. As a previous poster pointed out - if Palace go into the game a point ahead of us they know a draw against WBA won't change anything - we'll still need to beat them to stay up. So in such a case their entire game plan will be to win the game at all costs. A defeat is just as good as a draw. Glad someone understands! This is way more important than jsut psychological games and putting pressure on. There are a couple of pretty realistic scenarios where they could gain a massive advantage
Glaser Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 We are not the pigs, we don't cry about things being unfair, we just get on with it. this, although it looks pretty unfair when you think about it though !!!
sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 this, although it looks pretty unfair when you think about it though !!! Definitely, I'm not saying it should be an excuse, obviosuly it will be completely our own fault if we go down. But just pointing out that the FA and Sky, who are very strict that all the last day matches kick off at the same time, should realise that it's an unfair advantage to move a team to a Monday night for the penultimate match, and this shouldn't be something they consider doing.
RUMBELOWS91 Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 Been saying a while this could have a big impact on things. As a previous poster pointed out - if Palace go into the game a point ahead of us they know a draw against WBA won't change anything - we'll still need to beat them to stay up. So in such a case their entire game plan will be to win the game at all costs. A defeat is just as good as a draw. Wonder how people would feel if, with Palace level in injury time they send Speroni up for a corner and he nods the winner? They'd never do that if they thought a point could mean something.
Forza SPAL Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 This might have already been pointed out, but doesn't it give Palace a potential big advantage to be playing their penultimate game knowing the result of ours? All kinds of things could help them, like - If they go into the match one point ahead of us, they know that drawing is no better than losing (as in both scenarios, we have to beat them on the last day), and therefore could play outright for the win. - If they go into the match three points ahead of us, they can play outright for the draw, knowing that will save them. and so on. Basically, the FA wouldn't let two teams' final matches be at different times for this kind of advantage, but surely this should be the case for the penultimate match too? See your point but I'm afraid it's just the way it is. No-one could have known the importance of the fixtures when they came out. In any case, it's our fault that we're in the situation we are. If we'd got a few more points than we have we would not need to care about other games. Please don't let us descend to the depths of the pigs. If we go down it's because we are crap, not because the world is conspiring against us. We've already been given a big helping hand by Palace having 10 points deducted. What if they'd not gone into admin? Our position would now look a lot worse. UTO FTB
sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 See your point but I'm afraid it's just the way it is. No-one could have known the importance of the fixtures when they came out. In any case, it's our fault that we're in the situation we are. If we'd got a few more points than we have we would not need to care about other games. Please don't let us descend to the depths of the pigs. If we go down it's because we are crap, not because the world is conspiring against us. We've already been given a big helping hand by Palace having 10 points deducted. What if they'd not gone into admin? Our position would now look a lot worse. UTO FTB Yeah, obviously it's not like Wednesday's way to try to blame anyone else, when we know it will be our own fault. The only thing I can take issue with is that this is not a fixture that came out like this; this is one that the FA have moved for Sky (funnily enough, presumably at the time it was because it looked crucial for West Brom rather than Palace) But our case proves that this is something they shouldn't be doing with last-but-one games, because of the possible things that could happen.
dorian gray Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 This might have already been pointed out, but doesn't it give Palace a potential big advantage to be playing their penultimate game knowing the result of ours? All kinds of things could help them, like - If they go into the match one point ahead of us, they know that drawing is no better than losing (as in both scenarios, we have to beat them on the last day), and therefore could play outright for the win. - If they go into the match three points ahead of us, they can play outright for the draw, knowing that will save them. and so on. Basically, the FA wouldn't let two teams' final matches be at different times for this kind of advantage, but surely this should be the case for the penultimate match too? NO...the fa figure if we had anything about us we would win our last 3 an not be bothered about other results...
sturutter Posted April 16, 2010 Author Posted April 16, 2010 NO...the fa figure if we had anything about us we would win our last 3 an not be bothered about other results... True. Shame that we don't
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