Managerial Movement amongst the Relegated Sides.

[Deluded Owl]

So Leicester Part Company with Rowett after making a change during the season as now do Oxford with Bloomfield after also parting company with Rowett during the season.

 

However the team at the bottom of the table with the manager that both started and finished the season in charge elect to keep him in position.

 

Which team has got it right and which team has got it wrong. Interesting calls to say the very least.

[latemodelchild]

We've got it right for us I think. Henrick did an amazing job last season just keeping the players fighting and playing for us, the shirt and themselves. We are now seeing that he was doing all this with facilities that aren't even up to non league standard and having to do so much more than a manager should. 

 

Keeping him in place means we have someone who knows the place inside out. He knows what we need and it seems Storch is giving it to him. If it doesn't quite work out then we will make a change, same as if we brought someone new in and it didn't work. 

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

4 minutes ago, Deluded Owl said:

So Leicester Part Company with Rowett after making a change during the season as now do Oxford with Bloomfield after also parting company with Rowett during the season.

 

However the team at the bottom of the table with the manager that both started and finished the season in charge elect to keep him in position.

 

Which team has got it right and which team has got it wrong. Interesting calls to say the very least.

Interesting...

[sheffield_dave]

My hunch for months has been that any new ownership would assess Henrik on more than results, given the context of his year in charge.

 

His qualities as a man, his ability to lead, the respect he clearly has, the trust other clubs placed in him while loaning talent, the development of several younger players over the last year, the way he views the game and would like to play under “normal” circumstances.

 

Clearly Arise, through Storch, the CEO and now a Sporting Director, have met Henrik and come to the same conclusion. They’ve met the guy and want to support him with the tools to succeed. On balance, I think that’s probably the right call and personally I’m fully prepared to get behind it.

 

I’d also suggest that any move that includes appointing Russel Martin definitely isn’t “getting it right”..

[Roy Of The Roasters]

11 minutes ago, Deluded Owl said:

So Leicester Part Company with Rowett after making a change during the season as now do Oxford with Bloomfield after also parting company with Rowett during the season.

 

However the team at the bottom of the table with the manager that both started and finished the season in charge elect to keep him in position.

 

 

Shall we call this out for what it is? Yet another 'Pederson Out' thread......

[andypandy]

Changing managers does not guarantee success, sometimes it works, often it does not. Arise believe that HP is the right man, and I will support HP in his role.

[Tom22709]

Look at all the clubs in the pyramid that over many years have underachieved, and generally not been run very well and see how many managers they’ve sacked.

 

Then look at all the well run clubs, who’ve achieved relative success over a number of years and look at how many managers they’ve sacked.

 

You’ll start to notice a theme.

[Deluded Owl]

Just now, Roy Of The Roasters said:

 

Shall we call this out for what it is? Yet another 'Pederson Out' thread......

If it was I would’ve titled it Pedersen Out, wouldn’t I have Roy. Bottom line is the 2 teams that have come down to League 1 with us both made managerial changes during the season plus have decided to make a change during the close season. We have for whatever reason decided not to. If you’d read one of my earlier posts in another thread which you obviously haven’t then you’d have seen that I’m very much prepared to

wait and see what happens. So while I’m doing that you kindly carry on taking potshots at posters who believe it or not disagree with your point of view

[Maidstone Owl]

Perhaps the club now recognises that chopping and changing a manager and coaching team (entourage) - then chopping and changing again, and again... does not necessarily improve results on the pitch (with the same set of players at least).

 

Impatience/fan pressure usually wins through and social media fuels it more than ever. 

[Martin Dowse]

I lumped on Rowett to get Leicester promoted when he took over there. Someone on here tipped him strongly and now I’ve got to live on bread and water for the rest of the summer. 

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

3 minutes ago, Deluded Owl said:

If it was I would’ve titled it Pedersen Out, wouldn’t I have Roy. Bottom line is the 2 teams that have come down to League 1 with us both made managerial changes during the season plus have decided to make a change during the close season. We have for whatever reason decided not to. If you’d read one of my earlier posts in another thread which you obviously haven’t then you’d have seen that I’m very much prepared to

wait and see what happens. So while I’m doing that you kindly carry on taking potshots at posters who believe it or not disagree with your point of view

Well said...

[Roy Of The Roasters]

6 minutes ago, Deluded Owl said:

If it was I would’ve titled it Pedersen Out, wouldn’t I have Roy. Bottom line is the 2 teams that have come down to League 1 with us both made managerial changes during the season plus have decided to make a change during the close season. We have for whatever reason decided not to. If you’d read one of my earlier posts in another thread which you obviously haven’t then you’d have seen that I’m very much prepared to wait and see what happens. 

 

If it sounds like I'm taking a pot shot at you, then I offer my apologies. But lets be honest - your opinions on Pedersen are well known. If you have recently posted that we should "wait and see", then I missed that. But it's a definite change in tone from the several months in which you continually put HP down.

 

Given your history on the subject, starting a thread on why two of the relegated sides sacked their managers but one (us) didn't seems to me like an attempt to revive the argument. If you're prepared to "wait and see what happens" then it seems unnecessary.

 

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion, but given that Pedersen is still here and has been endorsed by a number of senior figures in and around the new regime, perhaps the whole discussion about whether or not he should be sacked should be parked for a while?

[patolookalike]

3 English clubs all relegated from the championship yes. But. All very different clubs, in different situations.

 

I'm not sure what the point is in trying to compare what Oxford and Leicester have or haven't done with their manager/coaching set up with what we have or havent done with ours?

 

What are we trying to achieve? Another HP out thread but with a different title?

[Deluded Owl]

7 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said:

 

If it sounds like I'm taking a pot shot at you, then I offer my apologies. But lets be honest - your opinions on Pedersen are well known. If you have recently posted that we should "wait and see", then I missed that. But it's a definite change in tone from the several months in which you continually put HP down.

 

Given your history on the subject, starting a thread on why two of the relegated sides sacked their managers but one (us) didn't seems to me like an attempt to revive the argument. If you're prepared to "wait and see what happens" then it seems unnecessary.

 

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion, but given that Pedersen is still here and has been endorsed by a number of senior figures in and around the new regime, perhaps the whole discussion about whether or not he should be sacked should be parked for a while?

Apology accepted. The post I’ve referred to is in the recalibration thread.
 

The reason I brought this up is I’m absolutely astonished at Oxford’s decision to sack Bloomfield as let’s be honest of all the relegated teams they’re probably the one most likely to return to the championship at the first attempt. Maybe the chance of that is questionable now?

 

I’ve listened to a lot of Simon Wilson interviews since he was first linked with us a month or so ago. I’ll be honest he impresses me with his insight and philosophy and if he thinks Pedersen is a good choice to take us forward then I’m prepared to wait and see.

 

That said there is a nagging doubt for me that due to the new rules that include managerial costs in the budget and due to Pedersen’s contract that he is currently serving we can’t afford to sack him even if the powers that be wanted to?

If I’m wrong as I’ve said many times before then I’ll hold my hand up but I very much doubt that yourself and the rest of the Pedersen tub thumpers will do the same if you prove to be wrong but we’re at the start of a New Era which could potentially be something special so I’m going to park my views on Pedersen for now or until we’ve lost the first game of the season

[BOOFABI]

Should we be worried?