oh_weds_we_love_you Posted Friday at 14:10 Posted Friday at 14:10 On 22/11/2025 at 12:42, BrianOwl said: Sincerely hope this never happens, this is all we need Been a while since I watched this. Looks dated already by top half Premier League standards. Looks very White Hart Lane, which was deemed not good enough for Spurs a decade ago! I know we've fallen well below Spurs in the past couple of decades, but I'd hope our club has ambitions to be competing at that sort of standard in the future. Spending a tonne of money bringing Hillsborough up to White Hart Lane standards might not be the way to go... 5
Blatter Posted Friday at 14:30 Posted Friday at 14:30 On 23/11/2025 at 08:08, M Royds said: Our ground is history and tradition. Aye a bit too much history. 2 2
marki Posted Friday at 19:18 Posted Friday at 19:18 In those World Cup plans, what location would the away supporters be located in league games?
Tom22709 Posted Friday at 20:18 Posted Friday at 20:18 On 24/11/2025 at 11:12, Tommy Crawshaw said: 1 billion plus? Nowhere near that for a good 40K seat stadium. The new 43K seat stadium being built for Real Zaragoza is costing 150M Euros and will be used in the 2030 World Cup. Get the Spanish in to build it. Like anything the devil is in the detail. For starters €150m is the budget, not the build cost. Also Spain is a mainland EU country, lower import and manufacturing costs plus no VAT. Do Zaragoza own the land they’re building on or is it a tenancy and if so what is the yearly costs on that? If Wednesday were to build a new 45k stadium the main thing the owners would be looking for is commercial viability. So good location, which means central or high traffic. Which means land, which means compulsory purchase of commercial property, road and transport infrastructure, start to add in surrounding retail, hotels, parking etc and it starts to creep into numbers beginning with £B 1
Mr Grey Man Posted Friday at 20:23 Posted Friday at 20:23 On 24/11/2025 at 11:12, Tommy Crawshaw said: 1 billion plus? Nowhere near that for a good 40K seat stadium. The new 43K seat stadium being built for Real Zaragoza is costing 150M Euros and will be used in the 2030 World Cup. Get the Spanish in to build it. Is that Spanish slave workers or what, cos there's no way you can build that for 150 euro's, and how much over budget will it end up being? 1
M Royds Posted Friday at 21:11 Posted Friday at 21:11 If we were to leave Hillsborough, this has to be the last thing played. To local singers, the video of significant past events playing in the background, lights dimming slowly. Not a dry eye in the house.
owls89 Posted Friday at 21:51 Posted Friday at 21:51 1 hour ago, Mr Grey Man said: Is that Spanish slave workers or what, cos there's no way you can build that for 150 euro's, and how much over budget will it end up being? I said this on here a few weeks ago. I would be surprised if it gets built for less than twice that. Btw today they mentioned the potential host cities for the 2035 womens wc, and no place for Sheffield at all. Not even considered.
owls89 Posted Friday at 21:56 Posted Friday at 21:56 For context Poland built the stadium in wrocław for about €180m, poznań €190m. Roughly similar capacity. That was 15 years ago 1
andytrig Posted Friday at 22:39 Posted Friday at 22:39 For comparison. The minimum hourly wage in Poland is approximately £6.31 per hour. From April 26 ours will be £12.71 Not sure we'll be building for the same price
Tommy Crawshaw Posted Friday at 23:37 Posted Friday at 23:37 (edited) 58 minutes ago, andytrig said: For comparison. The minimum hourly wage in Poland is approximately £6.31 per hour. From April 26 ours will be £12.71 Not sure we'll be building for the same price In Spain the minimum hourly wage is about £5 or £35 per day, £13K p.a. In construction the average salary is about Eur30K p.a. or Eur15 per hour. Edited Friday at 23:37 by Tommy Crawshaw
MF TAZ Posted Friday at 23:43 Posted Friday at 23:43 The ground is fkd it’s so fkd that any nostalgia to eating yo kept it is utterly gone never mind…. *gestures loudly* 1 1
Tommy Crawshaw Posted Friday at 23:47 Posted Friday at 23:47 3 hours ago, Tom22709 said: Like anything the devil is in the detail. For starters €150m is the budget, not the build cost. Also Spain is a mainland EU country, lower import and manufacturing costs plus no VAT. Do Zaragoza own the land they’re building on or is it a tenancy and if so what is the yearly costs on that? If Wednesday were to build a new 45k stadium the main thing the owners would be looking for is commercial viability. So good location, which means central or high traffic. Which means land, which means compulsory purchase of commercial property, road and transport infrastructure, start to add in surrounding retail, hotels, parking etc and it starts to creep into numbers beginning with £B It's been built on the site of the current stadium which is being totally demolished. They're spending EUR20M on a building a 20K capacity temporary stadium, while the new one is being constructed. Watching the first part of this video made me laugh, he could be describing Hilllsborough.
Daz Posted yesterday at 00:14 Posted yesterday at 00:14 Interesting video, glad I watched it. I hope the new owner doesn't want to sit in the past and get left behind by an increasing number of clubs who are doing the kind of things that Zaragoza plan to do. 2
jamiej Posted yesterday at 00:39 Posted yesterday at 00:39 If we get ambitious and wealthy owners and the aim is top half premier league , getting into Europe on a semi regular basis and hopefully the odd trophy we need a big modern stadium with all the mod cons to generate as much income as possible . By the time a new owner got any plans underway there will be 3 sixty thousand stadiums in London , one in Birmingham A fifty and sixty thousand stadium in Liverpool sixty and one hundred in Manchester , seventy in Newcastle and fifty odd in Leeds . That’s as well as the strong possibility of villa , Chelsea and others going above fifty thousand . How could we compete with a thirty / forty thousand stadium wether that be hillsborough or elsewhere . You don’t build a new stadium purely for a football club it’s for concerts , big fights and any other event you can get . We need to think big or we may as well give up 2
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