Potentially a new stadium,i really hope not

16 hours ago, Devonstrix said:

What makes our case any different than Liverpool’s in terms of the decision to stay or move, if our new owners are as fabulously wealthy as we hope?

 

Their owners decided to stay at Anfield and having been there scores of times in the 80’s, I know it’s in a very similar environment to Hillsborough. 

 

Surrounded by roads, old houses etc. 

 

I’d rather have their historic stadium any day compared to the generic bowl that Everton have just moved into. Have you seen the monstrosity that Birmingham are proposing to build ffs. 

 

Modern architects can work wonders with older structures these days. It just takes good planning, getting the City Council onside and a shed load of money. 
 

How difficult can it be?

 

 

Which bit of Anfield is historic ? All new stands
 

Would you have still stayed in place at Goodison though and redeveloped another difficult site.
 

I like what they’ve done as a club.
They’ve gone from an old outdated stadium that’s famous in Britain, to a sleek modern iconic (for the city of Liverpool) stadium that will be recognised globally as the owners try and get Everton back to competing for titles again. 

2 hours ago, El Wednesday said:

Has this area between Meadowhall and IKEA been mentioned? 

 

 

That pitch would be like it ain't half hot mum

westy - you sum it up perfectly. 

I know change is difficult for many and I know that history is cherished. But it will hold us back while other clubs leave us in their trail. 

If you take the total revenues of Premier League clubs at £6.9 billion, £1 billion was ticket sales, and £3.5 billion was broadcast fees, leaving £2.4 billion for commercial revenue. So that commercial revenue represents more than a third of overall revenue and an average of £120m per club (that alone is about 5 times our total revenues).

SWFC commercial revenue was £8m, obviously affected by not being in the Premier League, but also impacted by our poor facilities, location, car parking availability and other space restrictions. 

Assuming our new owners are ambitious and have deep pockets, we are at a crossroads as fans as to whether we want to catch up those clubs who were similar to us in the 70's to 90's (Chelsea, Man C, West Ham, Newcastle) or boo when we can't compete with them or lesser teams while they can afford better squads and keep turning us over. I would argue a new stadium is essential if we have any ambition, AND we can ensure that an architect can combine our rich history with fantastic facilities in any design.  

As much as I love Hillsborough, I think there are many advantages to moving a better site (assuming one is available). If nothing else, the Leppings Lane end can have a long-overdue memorial in its place.

1 minute ago, Daz said:

westy - you sum it up perfectly. 

 

I know change is difficult for many and I know that history is cherished. But it will hold us back while other clubs leave us in their trail. 

 

If you take the total revenues of Premier League clubs at £6.9 billion, £1 billion was ticket sales, and £3.5 billion was broadcast fees, leaving £2.4 billion for commercial revenue. So that commercial revenue represents more than a third of overall revenue and an average of £120m per club (that alone is about 5 times our total revenues).

 

SWFC commercial revenue was £8m, obviously affected by not being in the Premier League, but also impacted by our poor facilities, location, car parking availability and other space restrictions. 

 

Assuming our new owners are ambitious and have deep pockets, we are at a crossroads as fans as to whether we want to catch up those clubs who were similar to us in the 70's to 90's (Chelsea, Man C, West Ham, Newcastle) or boo when we can't compete with them or lesser teams while they can afford better squads and keep turning us over. I would argue a new stadium is essential if we have any ambition, AND we can ensure that an architect can combine our rich history with fantastic facilities in any design.  

It just feels like any time one of these threads comes around its always the same flimsy arguments used and people just bury their heads in sand because they want to be able to walk out of park hotel at 2.50 and watch us then head here to complain we lost to a team who " back in the 90's when were where a top 4 team nobody had ever heard of Brentford" 

Its that mentality we need to change the 90's was 30 years ago im all for remembering the past but im not going to rush out and buy an CRT tv or dig out my old dial up router just for old times sake but I still remember them and thats what people have to do remember the good times but realise we need to move on

4 minutes ago, AthensOwl said:

As much as I love Hillsborough, I think there are many advantages to moving a better site (assuming one is available). If nothing else, the Leppings Lane end can have a long-overdue memorial in its place.

If we was to leave the land would be sold or the club could redevelop the area into houses with the area of Leppings Lane being made into a memorial garden think that would suit all parties

2 hours ago, El Wednesday said:

Has this area between Meadowhall and IKEA been mentioned? 

 

 

Too late, we missed the boat on this land

major new site for Forgemasters

23 hours ago, onslow said:

Which prem grounds is better than ?

All the grounds mentioned in the above post are being redeveloped, Brentford, forest, Bournemouth, Palace etc..if we redeveloped Hillsborough it would be beautiful.  I just did up my old bike, it looks fab, so much better than all the plastic rubbish nowadays 

9 hours ago, Rogers said:

Nah, just smashed it together from google maps. 

Wow what a guy

2 hours ago, S1Owl said:

All the grounds mentioned in the above post are being redeveloped, Brentford, forest, Bournemouth, Palace etc..if we redeveloped Hillsborough it would be beautiful.  I just did up my old bike, it looks fab, so much better than all the plastic rubbish nowadays 

Bretford have already relocated

Bournemouth have space around the stadium to develop

Forest are endlessly discussing a new 50k seater  stadium on the city outskirts

Palace have paid a fortune for the nearby land and supermarket

Same old arguments. Others refurb so we should.
It doesn’t matter what other random teams are doing. 

6 hours ago, Daz said:

 

If you take the total revenues of Premier League clubs at £6.9 billion, £1 billion was ticket sales, and £3.5 billion was broadcast fees, leaving £2.4 billion for commercial revenue. So that commercial revenue represents more than a third of overall revenue and an average of £120m per club (that alone is about 5 times our total revenues).

 

SWFC commercial revenue was £8m, obviously affected by not being in the Premier League, but also impacted by our poor facilities, location, car parking availability and other space restrictions. 

 

 

There seems to be many on here calling for a new stadium that can hold concerts as well as football to bring in extra revenue. How many concerts have been held at Premier League stadiums in the last 10 years? 

Has there been any at Anfield, St James Park, Elland Road, Villa Park, to name a few. 

The few bands that can sell out stadiums will stick to Wembley, Manchester and Glasgow, they have the transport links including airports, Sheffield does not.

There may be the odd band that would do other stadiums, but they are few and far between.

6 minutes ago, marki said:

There seems to be many on here calling for a new stadium that can hold concerts as well as football to bring in extra revenue. How many concerts have been held at Premier League stadiums in the last 10 years? 

Has there been any at Anfield, St James Park, Elland Road, Villa Park, to name a few. 

The few bands that can sell out stadiums will stick to Wembley, Manchester and Glasgow, they have the transport links including airports, Sheffield does not.

There may be the odd band that would do other stadiums, but they are few and far between.

 

Do you mean apart from Taylor Swift (Anfield), Sam Fender (St James Park) and Black Sabbath (Villa Park)? Take That also did a stadium tour that included The City Ground and Home Park among others. 

7 minutes ago, barn_owl said:

Do you mean apart from Taylor Swift (Anfield), Sam Fender (St James Park) and Black Sabbath (Villa Park)? Take That also did a stadium tour that included The City Ground and Home Park among others. 

Stadium of Light has had plenty. Springsteen last year, Take That next year.

10 hours ago, Rogers said:

Ask the council to run a tram up Penistone road and have bus/coach drop off points. 

The council aren’t going to do that. Even if they wanted to, it’s. It in their gift to do that. 
 

It’s not the council that runs the tram network. We used to an almost utopia transport network before a certain lady destroyed it (no politics). 
 

going on Nottingham costs of their tram, it cost £66 million per mile to lay. 

8 hours ago, onslow said:

Which bit of Anfield is historic ? All new stands
 

Would you have still stayed in place at Goodison though and redeveloped another difficult site.
 

I like what they’ve done as a club.
They’ve gone from an old outdated stadium that’s famous in Britain, to a sleek modern iconic (for the city of Liverpool) stadium that will be recognised globally as the owners try and get Everton back to competing for titles again. 

That’s not correct though. No all new stands at all.

No stands were demolished in their redevelopment, so they’re all stands which have been extended. That’s what should be considered at Hillsborough in my opinion. Apart from there should be an all new stand to replace the Lep. 

New owners could get specialists to assess the feasibility of increasing the size of and renovating the North stand and improving facilities in other parts of the stadium. 

The first job though should be the demolition and rebuilding of the Lep. Let’s get that particularly monkey off the club’s back.