Dutch league declared null and void...

41 minutes ago, mattitheowl said:

If we look at the cold hard truth of it, cancelling the season would negatively affect about what 8 clubs?  I mean 14 max, out of 91.  As run away as Liverpool are, nobody else is really looking nailed on to go up.  Leeds were looking good but even so it's not outside their ability to completely blow it!  League 1 has 8 teams split by 8 points so there's nobody in that bunch guaranteed anything.  League 2 is only 11 points from top to last play off spot so again, nothing nailed on.

 

Cancel the season and work out what the next one will look like with restrictions in place.

At least we know that part, eh?

I think once all the different associations cancel their leagues that qualification for Europe next season will be based on what teams qualified from last season, or else with the amount of money at stake there will be some legal proceedings with teams that aren't put forward arguing their case in court

4 hours ago, Nut said:

Cheers. So if city appeal their ban pigs miss out?

Depends how the FA cup is viewed and if we keep our 7 European places or it gets cut to 6 as no FA Cup final got played.

If City appeal and stay in that'd give Man Utd the direct EL place via Prem and Wolves a cup place for definite.

If FA cup is still classed as City's from last season then Wolves get that and direct EL place, Sheff U get the League cup place which is 2nd qualifying round.

If FA Cup is scrubbed Wolves would get the League cup place (2nd Rd Quali) and nothing for Sheff U.

So you'd need a City appeal and FA Cup place voided I think to keep them out.

3 hours ago, the third man said:

I think once all the different associations cancel their leagues that qualification for Europe next season will be based on what teams qualified from last season, or else with the amount of money at stake there will be some legal proceedings with teams that aren't put forward arguing their case in court

Think it all you want. Eredivise haven't done it and that's the best indication for now 

I love the Dutch, they’re just so sensible and chilled out

16 hours ago, the third man said:

I think once all the different associations cancel their leagues that qualification for Europe next season will be based on what teams qualified from last season, or else with the amount of money at stake there will be some legal proceedings with teams that aren't put forward arguing their case in court

The Dutch have said the current top 2 will qualify for UCL (the relevant qualifying rounds anyway).  So they are just stopping the league now and not handing out a title, but seemingly positions stand.

Maybe here it could be current top 2 qualify then a pre-season play-off for next 4 teams to decide who gets next 2 an UEL places.

2 hours ago, mattitheowl said:

 

The Dutch have said the current top 2 will qualify for UCL (the relevant qualifying rounds anyway).  So they are just stopping the league now and not handing out a title, but seemingly positions stand.

 

Maybe here it could be current top 2 qualify then a pre-season play-off for next 4 teams to decide who gets next 2 an UEL places.

Ultimately it will UEFA who decide, if all leagues are void they will want teams who will get them the most money from TV revenues, and the TV companies will want the teams that will make them most advertising revenue

21 hours ago, mattitheowl said:

If we look at the cold hard truth of it, cancelling the season would negatively affect about what 8 clubs?  I mean 14 max, out of 91.  As run away as Liverpool are, nobody else is really looking nailed on to go up.  Leeds were looking good but even so it's not outside their ability to completely blow it!  League 1 has 8 teams split by 8 points so there's nobody in that bunch guaranteed anything.  League 2 is only 11 points from top to last play off spot so again, nothing nailed on.

 

Cancel the season and work out what the next one will look like with restrictions in place.

Liverpool are well clear BUT can still be caught. They are not mathematically certain of their position. They cannot be awarded the title and not impose the other current positions on the rest of the league. This would mean teams being relegated (and by extension, others promoted) when, with 9 games to go they could easily escape. So, Liverpool are definitely NOT  nailed on.

There are so many unknown, ifs, buts and maybes that the season has to be declared null and void.  Those 8 you refer to may claim this is unfair, but life is unfair, and there are bigger issues at present.

The biggest issue (I'm talking about football here) is clubs going bankrupt.  The PL, EFL and PFA should work out a way to safeguard all clubs during lockdown (they have enough money), encourage them to help the wider community and then we start again ONLY when it is safe to do WITH fans.

On 25/04/2020 at 13:11, torryowl said:

show a bit of class and accept it like ajax have done . 

Is that the same ajax that's been given a champions league spot even though the season is null and void?

Not surprised they have accepted it with class.

14 hours ago, Bulgaria said:

Is that the same ajax that's been given a champions league spot even though the season is null and void?

 

Not surprised they have accepted it with class.

Ajax, PSV and Feyonoord agreed to divide European money between the other clubs in there division to improve the domestic competition. There motivation wont be financial. 

20 hours ago, 31Dec1966 said:

Liverpool are well clear BUT can still be caught. They are not mathematically certain of their position. They cannot be awarded the title and not impose the other current positions on the rest of the league. This would mean teams being relegated (and by extension, others promoted) when, with 9 games to go they could easily escape. So, Liverpool are definitely NOT  nailed on.

There are so many unknown, ifs, buts and maybes that the season has to be declared null and void.  Those 8 you refer to may claim this is unfair, but life is unfair, and there are bigger issues at present.

The biggest issue (I'm talking about football here) is clubs going bankrupt.  The PL, EFL and PFA should work out a way to safeguard all clubs during lockdown (they have enough money), encourage them to help the wider community and then we start again ONLY when it is safe to do WITH fans.

The PL can do what they want, really. They can quite easily just declare that Liverpool are champions, CL/EL places stand, and no relegation.

As they've shown time and again, the football league is not really a consideration, so the fact some teams won't be promoted won't fuss them.

On the other hand, they probably want Leeds up and don't mind WBA either. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're invited to join a 22-team league next season.

All of this might wee wee off the EFL, but what are they going to do about it? They're not going to break off promotion and relegation, so there's not much that can be done. PL holds all the power. 

25 minutes ago, southportdc said:

 

The PL can do what they want, really. They can quite easily just declare that Liverpool are champions, CL/EL places stand, and no relegation.

 

As they've shown time and again, the football league is not really a consideration, so the fact some teams won't be promoted won't fuss them.

 

On the other hand, they probably want Leeds up and don't mind WBA either. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're invited to join a 22-team league next season.

 

All of this might wee wee off the EFL, but what are they going to do about it? They're not going to break off promotion and relegation, so there's not much that can be done. PL holds all the power. 

Pretty much.

I can see the PL finishing and the EFL having to void.

4 hours ago, SiJ said:

Pretty much.

 

I can see the PL finishing and the EFL having to void.

 

Your right. The PL care about making sure they recieve all the tv money and that clubs quality for Europe. They ain't to bothered about the EFL. Will be liverpool champs. No relegation and a playoff type system for the European places.

7 hours ago, southportdc said:

 

On the other hand, they probably want Leeds up and don't mind WBA either. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're invited to join a 22-team league next season.

 

 

the teams that play in Europe will not want a 22 team league, it took them ages to get the league down to 20 teams

I don't think anyone in the PL could care less about who gets promoted, one consideration for them however would be having to share the TV money 22 ways instead of 20

On 27/04/2020 at 06:53, SiJ said:

Pretty much.

 

I can see the PL finishing and the EFL having to void.

 

Could that happen?

I was under the impression the season would be void for everyone or resumes for everyone but they can't just pick and choose 

It is ridiculous now, they should just put to bed the season for every team and every league

Holland & France have made the right call. The PL are so greedy it beggars belief. Players and managers are humans aswell and despite their massive wages their health should be taken into consideration