ChrisWaddlesMullet

Chansiri’s business model was rely on the blind loyalty, don’t worry about investing in quality on and off the pitch, and fleece the fans as the only source of income. Who’d have thought that would fail and result in disillusioned fans and people staying away. You’d think that any prospective new owners, as billionaires, have a better idea of how to run a business and will also see that we’re an under performing asset and the attendances reflect that. If they improve things on and off the pitch then fans will come back. If we become successful we can then start threads about “Johnny come latelies” and the “prawn sandwich brigade”.

This is only an issue if you let it be. We know that getting rid of our previous owner is so much more important. As I said on another thread, the points total is a function of one man’s actions, who ran us into the ground.

Bit early to be on the spice!

Whatever points we end up on this season will need an asterisk next to them as the outcome is down to one man, who removes any possibility of this season (and its games) being normal sporting contests. Whilst disappointing that we’re so poor and it’s difficult to enjoy the games, we should look for the small victories within them. And we should celebrate the season for still being in existence and with hope for a better future!

I agree! I was being sarcastic ie it’s difficult to be overly critical when we’re existing on a threadbare squad that relies on players that aren’t championship level/ready.

Yep. Definitely not as good as Windass or Smith.

Must impress potential new owners too.

You can’t pick and choose when you apply the rules. It does seem to be piling on but I guess no one has created as big a clusterfcuk as our previous owner!

Let’s be honest, so many players aren’t good enough (they are what they are, so I’m not going to have a go at individuals), which is a consequence of one man’s incompetence and inability to understand how to invest in a football club. We’ve been living off a patchwork side since 2016. Any new owners should start afresh and see buying out of contracts as part of their investment. We need to build a top quality league one side, with championship potential. And then do the same in the Championship. Repeat.

You could also have added that the “excuse” would be invalid - you can show your solidarity for the Palestinians at the Sheffield protest as it starts at 11.30, giving you enough time to get to the match.

If prospective new owners are thinking big then the stadium needs to be down the parkway or just off it (sadly). There’s no truly multipurpose stadium in the north midlands/yorkshire and access will be crucial.

I agree with this (mainly) - as you’ll know being in the States, many of the baseball stadiums are retro and asymmetrical. Whether it’s redeveloping Hillsborough or moving to a new site, I think the stadium should look like an old school stadium, with interesting stands, but modern facilities. Away fans love that Hillsborough is a proper football stadium (just not that its so antiquated) so we’d be unique in developing something that maintained that vibe.

Cheers, both!

A lot of self-projection going on as to what the definition of being a fan is! In reality it’s a sliding scale, with the casual fan who watches at home at one end and those that will go to every game, home and away, at the other. We need to shift everyone up the scale - people have been naturally been slipping down due to the shocking ownership over the last 25 years and the resultant poor performance on the pitch. It’s going to take time. And once we’re pushing for the Champions League people will be moaning about the “Johnny come latelys”!!!

I can’t remember the circumstances but did their admin get rid of a terrible and despised owner or did they just use it as a mechanism to carry on but without the debt? And how long between admin and them achieving the things you mention?

Beautiful mullet plumage!!!

Oi!!!

An ambitious owner would level the West stand asap whilst we’re in League One, to reflect lower away support that we’ll get (apart from United and Norwich!!!) and benefit from when we go back up.

I agree. Hillsborough looked fantastic on Wednesday night (in terms of scale and variety of stands). I’d favour a stand by stand approach, starting with the West. I’d replicate what we have now, so that it maintains our heritage ie a nod to us having the largest cantilever at the time, a big kop as the home-end. And could the north and south be “swapped” to allow the building of a new stand that incorporates the changing facilities, offices etc and build into the current car park, whilst allowing us to continue using the south stand facilities. I also think a separate store/ticket office on the other side of Penistone Road would give us more flexibility too. All subject to the engineering/utilities feasibility, which I think is the difficulty with regenerating the current site. Oh, and cost!

Agree with this. So much history associated with the club. Could include a “hall of fame” where we recognised the legends over the years. Whilst Bannan and Palmer have been great servants we’ve had better players, who deserve to be recognised. I know an archivist if the club needs one to sift through its attic!

You’re performing some right mental gymnastics here to justify your argument, whilst ignoring the figures that several people have posted!

@Nedman can you do the calculations again but not count season ticket holders, as their money has already been banked? rough estimate of 18,000 season tickets 22,000 of which 4,000 paying £30 = £120k 28,000 of which 10,000 paying £20k = £200k as RRN has also pointed out!

I don’t disagree with this but the band didn’t solve this last night during that quiet spell. I still think we need to sack them off and start over, building an atmosphere. We have some positivity around the place now that we need to take advantage of.

*Bannan!

I was so disappointed to find the band were still there. The atmosphere was great for the first 20 mins, not least cos Bannon got off us off to a flyer. It didn’t need the band to create that atmosphere. The crowd was flat at the beginning of the second half cos the team came out on the back foot and let Norwich control the game. They’re out of time, out of tune and out of ideas. Many times they ignored the chants that people were starting and trampled over them, killing the spontaneity. They’re a relic of a different time and need to go. There’s something quite narcissistic about thinking you’re the reason for the atmosphere. Get rid and let fans get back into the habit of starting chants (plenty of people away from the band were trying last night). It may take time but we’ll be better off for it.