Since 1971

Agreed. He's at Stoke now and look at their league position after years of money and trying different managers.

Why is it compulsory in the modern game for socks to be worn either just above the ankle with a credit card for a shin pad, or pulled right up level with shorts? Dress properly FFS. And while you're at it, black boots only please. Thank you.

Any summary of Palmer's time with us has to mention the 4th goal in the play off semi-final. It's not his (or Pederson's) fault that he was playing today. He is amongst the best we have at the moment. Only one person responsible for that.

Ball didn't run for us that day, keeper made those saves at the end. It just wasn't going to be. Superb atmosphere on the North Bank. "Ohhhh Jackie Charlton's magic, he wears a magic hat....." For some reason I still have this:

I agree it's unacceptable. It's also totally unacceptable that a similar push on a referee in a premier league game around the same time was not punished in the same way. One the ref did not theatrically lose his balance and stumble over. Two, the player who pushed him was David Batty, England international. I wonder why the FA treated him differently to Di Canio?

Yep agreed. See Jack Grealish re Man City. Always thought he was a bit overrated but Guardiola subdued his natural talent.

I agree with a lot of what you say. But if you're looking for enjoyment, you might be following the wrong club. I enjoy spending time with family and friends with the match at the centre of that. I often enjoy the atmosphere, and at my age, I enjoy still being able to go. My bar for enjoyment is probably a lot lower than yours! But I don't think I was the only one who enjoyed the Peterborough home game and the last 10 seconds of the Barnsley game at Wembley.

I read that as we signed James Hunt and Gregory Smith

True. The league status is not critical. I don't want to be in league 1 but accept we are heading there. My two favourite ever seasons were both in the second tier, old division 2. 1983/84 promotion and 1990/91 promotion and league cup win. Yes, I was lucky to enjoy years in the top flight, and seasons 1991/92 and 92/93 are my third and fourth favourite seasons. But it's the journey that's important. Not the destination. Enjoy the journey, choose winning more than we lose, choose promotion points graphs, choose maybe winning a league for the first time since 1959. I'd take that anytime over half and half scarves, tourist fans and getting thrashed by whichever club is owned by a middle east state or consortium of arms dealers.

The worst corner ever taken in our history

On hearing we'd signed them, before seeing them play, I was very wary of Pavel Srnicek, Colin West and Barry Horne. All very poor.

A good, international midfielder. But like so many Francis signings, he had no pace. The team was crying out for players with speed. From an era when we signed internationals with World Cup experience! Taken far too early in very sad circumstances.

From the 1930s, the 1960s and the 1990s, our most successful times and most Wembley appearances were all wearing Umbro kit. It's not difficult is it?

Some great comments in this thread. To be honest, if we'd won 5-0 today but with Chansiri still owning the club I would have felt a lot worse tonight.

Early September 1984, at home to Tottenham. Yellow owl badge and yellow umbro logo.

The Varadi image is from August 1984, pre-season photo call. We had just returned to the top flight for the first time in 14 years. Umbro took over the kit contract from Bukta that summer. They produced this lovely shirt as part of a home kit that lasted for three seasons. The match kit and the replicas all had yellow Owls badges and yellow umbro logos. Match kit had embroidered badge and logo. Replicas had felt badge and logo. However, the 1984 pre-season photo call and the first game at home to Forest, the players wore this shirt with the white badges. The next two games (away at Newcastle and Stoke) we wore the new yellow away kit. The following home games were all with yellow badge shirts. For virtually every other match for three years the yellow badge shirt was worn. There is at least one (very rare) example of a white badge shirt appearing (with Finlux sponsorship), long sleeved and worn by Megson in 1987. This white badge shirt version would appear to have been an early production of the shirt, maybe a prototype, with the yellow badge version certainly intended to be the Wednesday shirt, as proven over the following games and the next three years, as the Siggi Jonsson photo at the start of the 1985\86 season.

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Yes I think it is the same shirt but not colour faded. The embroidered owl badge and umbro logo alongside the integrated Finlux sponsor indicate this was a players match shirt - before the colour fade of course. The replicas of this shirt never appeared with sponsors name or embroided badges and logos. Apart from August 1984 v Nottingham Forest when the badge and logos were white, the Owl and umbro mark were always yellow on the blue stripes. The colour fade of the stripes, Owl badge and logo appears very strange when the colour remains original on the collar and cuffs. If it's not your original photo of the shirt, I strongly suspect digital alteration of the royal blue stripes rather than colour fade.

I think the Benny Hill tune is probably one of the worst pre kick off anthems

The Boro game in April. My daughter (a student) bought us tickets on the kop for my Birthday. She knew nothing of the Chansiri campaign and protests. Obviously we really enjoyed it, spending the day together. And she fell in love with Pierce Charles. She now understands the Chansiri out stuff and keeps me up to date with Pierce Charles' news because she follows him on face tok or something. I've been going since 1971. Not been to every home game in a season since 1984 when I moved out of Sheffield. Mostly been doing away games in last three years, but won't be going to Hillsborough again until Chansiri has gone. I find it all very frustrating, demoralising and its got me down a bit. God knows how you lot who go regularly are coping. Its horrible.

That's wonderful stuff, thanks!

It would be lovely to focus on this sort of stuff but until Chansiri goes, there should really only be one target and subject of focus, and it's not the players or staff. Personally I think we'd be lucky to have a 5ft 2 inch 16 year old in goal the state of our club. But we have an international keeper. He could throw one in today and I'll still cheer him on. He is not worth worrying about at the moment. Look at the club, we have a thousand problems to resolve urgently before we get to Pierce Charles.

I was on an ICO coach. I remember being very relieved it was parked so close to the exit after the game. Some real tension in the air that day. Loved Varadi, favourite goal has to be Forest at home first game back in Div 1, August 1984. If you were there, you know.

I used to think there was a direct correlation between awful kit and team performance. Even allowing for subjective taste and opinion, people tend to agree on what is a bad or good short before team performances come into it. I do remember the recent enthusiasm for the Macron 2022/23 kits when launched and the prospect of getting promoted in such good kits. But this is one of the best ever Wednesday kits and we got relegated in it under Atkinson in 1989/90. . . We also had the green and white hooped away shirt that season so that may have swung the sartorial influence balance.....

Wonderful goal, later eclipsed for goal of the season by Windass v Derby. I will always think his best goal for us though was the penalty for 1-0 v Peterborough. So much pressure on that kick that set up the miracle. If he'd missed, it was game over even so early in the match. And then he repeated it in the shoot out. He played a blinder against his home town Geordies in the cup for us and all. Best wishes Michael, thanks for the memories.