Blergh

Folk remember the couple of screamers I guess, rather than the seriously indifferent play.

Barkley’s spell with us is probably best described as: - he was okay when he had the ball - he didn’t do any harm when another Wednesday player had the ball - total liability when the opposition had the ball.

You’re quite right, that is pedantic….. . More seriously, you’re bang right, it was a tendon from the hamstring. It was also about 20 years ago, so I’m sure the procedure and recovery has moved on since then. As you say, we don’t know what he’s done and professional sportsmen will I’m sure be handled somewhat differently to the average NHS punter. That said, I don’t think there is any harm in folk sharing their own experiences if it help others to understand that the road back from significant knee injuries can be a long one.

That’s a result! They did mine using a ligament from my hamstring. In fairness the repairs been solid (hopefully not tempting fate there either!) but my knee is getting a bit gripey. In fairness that’s probably more to do with playing three years of sport on an undiagnosed full tear, rather than the repair itself….

Yup, the implication at the time was that it was an ACL tear, so about 9 months of rehab, then getting properly back to playing and fitness after that. Typically around 12 months before a players back and playing, and even then you frequently don’t really see the best of that player until the next season.

This. The EFL are pretty clearly preparing the ground with the current charges, so the regulator has an oven ready case to assess. I’m not unduly concerned about the legal challenge aspect of this. Any judicial review would be expedited through the courts, it won’t be allowed to drag on for months and months. Also, assuming the regulator puts together a robust case, all chancer could try to challenge is the legislation itself. He’d have to prove that it’s legally irrational or unreasonable. Thats a very high bar for rules approved by Parliament, especially when there are precedents for these types of powers being lawful when used by the HMRC, etc.

110%. There is no universe in which absolutely every single fan was ever going to get on board with one single protest action. The key thing is that the overwhelming majority are pulling the rope, be that voting with their feet, not a pound in the ground, buying scarves, etc. Some will still spend but you only need to see the empty seats, the closed kiosks, and mile long list of embargoes for unpaid bills to see the impact we are having. A few hundred people buying a pint and a pie isn’t going to change that impact.

I’ve been wondering about this. I have no expertise whatsoever in financial law but surely this scenario feels like the absolute definition of trading insolvent.

Give over. No fan deserves this situation or chewing out for Chansiri’s wrongdoings. We’re all angry and scared for our club but folk react to these situations in different ways. Some like you get angry, others can’t cope with it and just shut down. They’re the folk calmly trying to get their luggage out of the overhead storage on plummeting aeroplanes. It doesn’t mean they don’t care, it’s just a different emotional response to a really sh1tty situation. And before you ask, yes I did stand and join the protest but I can also understand how some fans are just so ground down by all of this, especially after the preceding 25 years, that they just don’t feel capable of dealing with the enormity of what’s happening to their club. Maybe try to remember who the real enemy is instead of lashing out at other suffering fans.

One thousand percent! But bring it on!

It happens. I remember it happening to us years ago with Leigh Bromby pulling up with a hammy as he was chasing down a ball over the top and the opposition player ran clean through and scored. Very frustrating when it happens to you but thems the breaks.

I think Valery makes a big difference to the balance. Also having Iorfa in the RCB position makes us less vulnerable to the ball in behind the right wingback. At times we’ve looked a bit vulnerable to balls into that gap but he’s got the legs to cover and is comfortable in that ‘right back’ position. It balances Lowe who does the same thing on the left.

Ta!

Sounded like he did really well today. It takes some doing when you’re giving up quite a bit in strength and build compared to your opponents. Suggests a good footballing brain. Was he playing in the middle of the three? I always think Iorfa is better when he’s in the right hand slot.

Oh get lost with your gaslighting BS. Ive directly said it’s a critique on my part, my very words. I said I’d expect him to be further along in ‘that aspect’ of his develop, i.e. holding up the ball. I haven’t remotely implied that he’s not trying, that I don’t rate him, or that he’s not good enough. I just think it’s an area where he can do better than he is. Nothing controversial about that that I can see. I don’t expect or require you or anyone else to agree with that opinion but I absolutely reserve the right to express it without being shouted down as some sort of traitor to the cause. We are allowed to discuss normal topics like how a player is developing and where they can improve. Anyway, we’ve had a good win today. I intend to enjoy it. I hope you do too.