FlyingOwl

Depends what OP means by 'made it'. A lot of the players mentioned did very much 'make it' - when you consider the teeny tiny likelihood of playing professional football as a career. A lot of players mentioned in this thread have played regular League 1 - Championship level football ffs. They've made it.

How much weaker can we go? Like honestly what changes can be made?

I imagine the outcome of the charges is being delayed because the EFL need to give enough chances to hear from the illusive Dejphon himself. Though I've heard we may hear something re: points deductions this month.

It'll be less than 20 - if any at all.

Bite 'em

Ernie

Will win Player of the Season by a landslide.

Result doesn't matter Just more experience for the young talent.

Left Unsold - 10, 338 Still great numbers, but still left BAFFLED as to how even 138 tickets have been sold in two days. Who has seen the news in the last 48 hours and thought...yeah...i'll have some of that.

NORTH (£41) - 2198 SOUTH £46 - 1631 GRANDSTAND £38 - 1108 KOP £36 - 5401

Think this is because we'd just beaten Portsmouth & Yan made a point of saying it's always nice to win at Fratton Park.

& yet he's survived multiple managers/ownerships/eras/leagues. He's always fit. He can & will fill in multiple positions. He's a leader in the dressing room. I also disagree on his best season. He won POTY in 2013/14 season ffs. There's a reason he's been a constant. Yes, we're now probably at a stage of beggars can't be choosers - but it would genuinely be a real shame if Liam didn't finish his career here, regardless of our current squad state making him a necessity. As well as that, in an era when we're trying to blood through youngsters...having Liam Palmer around them is invaluable in terms of giving them a proper role model.

Carlos Carvalhal > Danny Röhl

He's come in during an impossible situation, doing his best. Could have easily told us to bugger off. Really not a fair thread. Is he Pierce Charles? No. Does it matter? Also no. would we have lost today with Buffon in net? Probably.

I'm really not arguing I'm just a fan saying how it's come across to me. If it's come across to me a bit negatively, it'll come across to others the same. And we can't afford for groups organising protests to come across negatively.