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Instinctively looked to the lower lep when it started up, expecting to see that group of young lads going bonkers. Of course, they'll all be on their second marriages and have piles by now. Where does the time go?

Well, given it's nearly Dec i think we can safely rule out him hampering Fusire, Kobacki and McNeil's development during the Aug-Nov part of your timescale of worry... As for the future, I'm not 'contending' anything about 6 games - I'm just referencing the fact (as stated on official site, BBC etc etc) we've only signed him (for now at least) until January. Primarily with the congested Xmas schedule and Afcon in mind no doubt. Not sure why anything about this gives you concern for our young players' development tbh. Esp the development of those you've named who won't even be available to play during some/ all of NR's time at S6!

How exactly would you propose 'persevering' through Dec & Jan with 2 players who are likely to be unavailable for a significant chunk of the games coming up in that period?!

That's a tough w*nk, but after a full weekend on the ale I'm going to take it on The things I do for my fellow Wednesdayites....

Have no confidence in this view currently tbh. I think this is more a mentality/mental health/ determination thing rather than an ability thing.

I agree. He's also been on the receiving end of some decent service this season (notably in recent weeks from Bannan and Amass) that really should have resulted in goals. But no.... Anyhow, I was mostly referring to this season and basically giving him a bye last season due to combo of no pre-season and unpaid wages. Bottom line, I think we (and most others on here agree) is that this looks terminal and there's prob, sadly, no way back for him here now.

In 40yrs of watching the Owls i honestly can't think of another example of anything like what we're seeing with Ugbo right now. Yes, we've all seen our fair share of absolute dogger players in that time. Yes, we've signed enough players with big reputations/past glories who have turned out to be a busted flush/ here for a last payday. Yes, we've seen players with bags of early potential who, due to injury or just not progressing as hoped etc haven't ever fulfilled those early hopes. But with Ugbo we've all seen with our own eyes that he can time a run, he can produce a finish, he can bully a defender, he can get a shot off under pressure. We know he can do it. Or he could. But now he can't/ won't. Why? Granted, he's playing in a poor team (no disrespect to those around him who are trying their best but just not ready/ up to Champ standard) and that's likely to affect his goal ratio (pffft)/ chances per game, but if anything it should also make him stand out as one of the better players. In actuality, the opposite has happened. He stands out as being dire. For me, it can only be a mental health thing or a not giving a flying f*ck thing. If the former, I sympathise and he should be getting the help he needs. If the latter, I struggle to see how Bannan/Palmer haven't had him up against the changing room wall by the throat by now. Either way, he should be nowhere near their first team squad at the minute.

Or as the natives say here in Hull, "errrdious turd" Which is equally accurate in this instance

Great work as usual @BIG D When it comes to Kop selling out, do we know if this means literally every seat has sold, or were some restricted view tickets never put on sale? Does this change game to game? I'd have thought if they were deemed too poor to sell for one game that would apply to all, but not sure that's actually the case?

Yep, same experience here. Lost count of the number of games where Guinness has run out altogether on Kop or we've given up queuing cos it's taken over 20mins and the game is kicking off.

I was thinking exactly the same - except with a 12 or 18 month interest free card taken out over the summer, the OP wouldn't even need to pay any interest, assuming they could set up a monthly direct debit that was sufficient to cover the cost of the season ticket within said period. Seems an obvious solution? That being said, some great other suggestions by folk in this forum, some of which the club will hopefully adopt when new owners are settled in. My personal faves are the Saturday ST and/or 4 game voucher set up, as the reason preventing me and my daughter getting full STs (now tuna chops has gone) is the amount of stupid KO times that traveling distances and other life commitments stop us from getting to. Appreciate that's all down to feckin Sky and nowt the club or fans can really alter. WAWAW

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Incorrect.

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Agree. I saw J Lowe miss 2 sitters, never saw Ugbo get himself in a position to take/ miss a chance