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I have to disagree. That side has around 25 goals in it in the Championship. In league 1 its not going to suddenly produce 80 or so. Cadz might get you 10, nobody else gets more than 5. Its also built on Iorfa, Chalobah, Bernard who are likely to be injured in large patches (I know you caveated if all fit), Bannan who is a year older and a general lack of pace and height, which will be exposed in L1. Last time around we had Smith, Windass, Gregory & Pato all getting 10+ goals and we still didn't make automatics. It also had players like Byers, Neymarv etc who got goals and we dont have that in the side right now. L1 is often underestimated, it can be a real dogfight.

My mate, who is a Burnley fan missing maybe 2 games a year home and away (travelling from the Peak so its a fair trip even to home matches) says Redmond always looked good when he played - his concern for us is his injury situation.

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My understanding was that we owe him.£60m as part of the sale of Hillsborough and another £60m as funding he has put into the club and classified it as director loans. The buyer could pay him 10p in the pound under UK administration law (ie £12m) and that would be acceptable, but our own football regulations state that if less than 25p in the pound is paid the club will receive additional points deductions the season after. There was talk at one point that a new buyer could try to put a case forward that to the football authorities that the money he has put into the club should not really be under the 25p rule as most owners would put it in and not classify it as debt, it would just be part of what an owner does. That way he'd be entitled to £21m not £30m. Failure to pay 10p in the pound is insolvency and a whole new ball game. I think Im right on all of this but happy to be corrected.

If we are looking for automatics next year then we need goals. I think hes got 1 for us in around 50 games, often being played high up the pitch. I like him but that return, which is almost on a par with the rest of his career, speaks volumes. I dont think he should be compared to Pato, but Pato was far more effective in both boxes. Release, or 4th choice central midfield player and never part of a front 3. Ive wondered if he could do a job at LWB, but I doubt it.

Love your sentiment but I think right now this current squad would be bottom half in League 1, possibly close to relegation as there are no goals throughout the team. I agree with Charles, if we do get owners with big pockets, he's got to be told we are a club that could be in the Prem in 3 years and we want him to be our goalkeeper throughout that period and beyond. A good pro as back up would be crucial I think. I'd like to kero Valery as a full back, but I also doubt he'd stay. Im not sure Fusire is good enough back up though, but he has more games to prove himself. He was struggling to get into a Carlisle side last year in his preferred position. M Lowe may stay, which would be fine, but I'm also not sure about Johnson. League 1 is tough - we only just made is out last time with season pro's. I reckon 1 or 2 full backs needed. Agree re Cooper, Bernard, Iorfa and Weaver, but I think we need a really strong centre half and for me Otegbayo just isnt good enough. Palmer is now nothing more than an average L1 player, maybe keep him, but I'd expect him to not be in the squad at times. I reckon 1 or 2 centre halfs needed. Bannan is a tricky one. Personally - and I know I'll get pelters, I think he should be kept but as a squad player. Pick his matches, tell him he is no longer captain and wont play every week. Agree with the rest of the midfielders. I reckon we need 3 more central midfielders. As for the forward players, the only ones I'd keep are Cadz (3rd or 4th choice striker) and Brown (looked good, but impossible to assess for a full L1 year). We probably need 2-3 central strikers and 2-3 wide strikers/wingers. By that Id say around 12 players, maybe 6 on loan and 6 new signings.

Given how long youve taken to reply, Id say it all academical

I think its fair to call him a club legend and I cant think of a more model professional. Works hard, seems to be liked by his teammates and has had a very good career. It would be good to see him break the record. Successive managers have kept him, I would suggest because hes dependable, good for the dressing room, can cover across the backline (occasionally in midfield), never grumbles when dropped or benched and far from the highest earner. Similarly though, successive managers have not included him in their first 11, including times in league 1. His RB position has been filled by Buxton, Hunt and Valery, all chosen regularly in favour of Palmer so this could happen again once signings start. That could be the clincher as to whether he takes the record. Lets hope he does it and at the same time we are pushing on and hes part of another promotion - maybe even the first time we win a league in most peoples lifetime.

We were having this type of chat on our way to West Brom recently. How many league grounds have you been on all 4 sides of and watched a match from that side. I may have missed a few but I think mine was 1. Hillsborough 2. Millmoor 3. Oakwell 4. Vicarage Road 5. Villa Park I have plenty at 3 sides such as Highbury, Elland Road, but I bet there are fans with lots more than me.

Im picturing the scene 5 years from now. Waltons are our owner and we are playing Barcelona in the Champions League group stage at Hillsborough. My Spanish mate has made the trip. "Let me show you our footballing statue next" "That should be good, we have one of Cruyff and the Messi statue is almost finished. Is yours of Waddle" "No, not Waddle" "Well maybe your highest ever scorer" "Not exactly, he went 10 years without scoring" "Perhaps someone who played lots of times for England" "Well actually, he was English but managed to play 8 times for Scotland" "Ok, let me guess then, what was his best position?" "Hard to say, he didn't really have one. He was mainly a defender" "I need more, how many times did he play for you in the premiership" "Never" "This is tricky, did he break your appearance record?" "No, he got close as he managed to play regularly when the only choice was him or a 17 year old who has never even played for our U21s" "I still dont know, what was his best season for you?" "His best season for the club was arguably when he ran a 10k every day in pre-season" "Why didnt you tell me that at the start, obviously its Liam Palmer"

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I'm not sure that's the crucial point. Isn't more about what is seen as a fair price. If we are valued at £20m but someone has to pay £45m because of the large debt to DC, that person may decide against it even if they are a billionaire.

Just donated to Trust, will happily join in with something like this next time - I didnt expect Owlstalk to start a fundraiser and it be closed so quickly. Well done everyone and what a great idea Neil

If the adminstrators dont sell season tickets then its a good thing as the new owners can hopefully set fair prices but also sell them after the season has ended. If they go on sale soon it probably means the administrators are still short of cash flow. I'd like to think that the Norwich and United game together with the 4 game package releases enough revenue.

Agree with this. The new owners coming in need revenue streams. However for games up to that point, lets do what is needed to get fans into the ground.