Ian Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, owls66 said: To be fair, Dawson and Wildsmith are fine in goal as long as the opposition don't have a shot on target. And yet the stats from last season show that Dawson saves around 7 out of 10 (which incidentally is almost identical to Westwood) and Wildsmith 6. Dawsons save percentage from last season (68) is better than all the following keepers that many on here have been clamouring for Archer Etheridge Marshall Davies Bentley Walton Rudd Betenelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Ian said: And yet the stats from last season show that Dawson saves around 7 out of 10 (which incidentally is almost identical to Westwood) and Wildsmith 6. Dawsons save percentage from last season (68) is better than all the following keepers that many on here have been clamouring for Archer Etheridge Marshall Davies Bentley Walton Rudd Betenelli think its how many mistakes you make not how many saves that defines how good a keeper you are ........ive championed dawson since jos brought him into the team but he's hard to back since the start of last season . ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, torryowl said: think its how many mistakes you make not how many saves that defines how good a keeper you are ........ive championed dawson since jos brought him into the team but he's hard to back since the start of last season . ........ What defines a good keeper …..It’s an interesting one…. would you rather have a keeper who saves 8 out of 10 shots on target and drops massive clangers on the other 2 or saves 7 out of 10 and is no where near the other 3? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Ian said: What defines a good keeper …..It’s an interesting one…. would you rather have a keeper who saves 8 out of 10 shots on target and drops massive clangers on the other 2 or saves 7 out of 10 and is no where near the other 3? for me the good keepers are the one who make the least mistakes ...you have a keeper whos shipping 2 goals a game due to his errors and he aint going to have a long run in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, torryowl said: for me the good keepers are the one who make the least mistakes ...you have a keeper whos shipping 2 goals a game due to his errors and he aint going to have a long run in the team All our keepers should be in for a long run then. Despite the hysterics on here everytime we conceded a goal none of our keepers averages conceding 2 goals a game, never mind due to their own errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ian said: And yet the stats from last season show that Dawson saves around 7 out of 10 (which incidentally is almost identical to Westwood) and Wildsmith 6. Dawsons save percentage from last season (68) is better than all the following keepers that many on here have been clamouring for Archer Etheridge Marshall Davies Bentley Walton Rudd Betenelli How do you get these stats..Dawson is a disaster waiting to happen..every game..unsettled the defence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, brando said: How do you get these stats..Dawson is a disaster waiting to happen..every game..unsettled the defence.. I dont "get the stats"..the stats are the stats and are freely available in the public domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 24/07/2021 at 05:29, Ian said: And yet the stats from last season show that Dawson saves around 7 out of 10 (which incidentally is almost identical to Westwood) and Wildsmith 6. Dawsons save percentage from last season (68) is better than all the following keepers that many on here have been clamouring for Archer Etheridge Marshall Davies Bentley Walton Rudd Betenelli Yeah, Dawson saves and pushes it straight back towards the oncoming strikers. Awful keeper, and Wildsmith may actually be worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 23:36, Ian said: I dont "get the stats"..the stats are the stats and are freely available in the public domain Stats or not, there aren't many people who have watched either of our keepers who have confidence in them. I don't remember a time we had two worse keepers than these. Incidentally shot stopping is only a small (and possibly the easiest) part of being a keeper. What Westwood really brought to the party was a commanding, confident presence in defence, which lifted the whole team - in particular the defence. With these two in the net we are going to struggle big time. A blind man on a galloping horse can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 22:13, torryowl said: for me the good keepers are the one who make the least mistakes ...you have a keeper whos shipping 2 goals a game due to his errors and he aint going to have a long run in the team Will in this team. Pap defence that has no confidence in the keeper behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Jack the Hat said: Stats or not, there aren't many people who have watched either of our keepers who have confidence in them. I don't remember a time we had two worse keepers than these. Incidentally shot stopping is only a small (and possibly the easiest) part of being a keeper. What Westwood really brought to the party was a commanding, confident presence in defence, which lifted the whole team - in particular the defence. With these two in the net we are going to struggle big time. A blind man on a galloping horse can see that. How do you explain that we werent really much better last season then with Westwood in goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 18 hours ago, Ian said: How do you explain that we werent really much better last season then with Westwood in goal? I disagree. We were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Jack the Hat said: I disagree. We were better. We'll lets the stats decide then shall we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just need another couple of keepers, four strikers, and 6 sick beds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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