scram Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Ramsey Robson Venables One world cup winner The other 2 lost semi finals on pens 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, scram said: Ramsey Robson Venables One world cup winner The other 2 lost semi finals on pens One was euros which is barely worth half a wc Southgate is a maverick, the ppl don’t like it but by god does he get results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taz said: One was euros which is barely worth half a wc Southgate is a maverick, the ppl don’t like it but by god does he get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I do hate the football we play. It's nothing football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I like Southgate as a person I don't rate him as a manager - his "success" was actually a failure against a mediocre Croatia I said at the time people will look back on it and rue the fact we should have got to the final - it will never be an easier run I thought after Itialia 90 that we would be back and always fighting at the sharp end - we didn't even qualify for the next 2 tournaments Robson was absolutely eviscerated (shamefully) for us losing on pens to Germany Southgate was deified for getting outplayed by f*cking Croatia 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Malc Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Taz said: Southgate is a maverick, the ppl don’t like it but by god does he get results. 0-0’s? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Everyone wants to like Southgate he’s just not delivering 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Oh, and we could barely fail to qualify for this tournament - seems like most teams that entered the qualifiers are still in it! But yeah, great success 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, scram said: Oh, and we could barely fail to qualify for this tournament - seems like most teams that entered the qualifiers are still in it! But yeah, great success You can talk and talk but he still took us to a every semi final it was my first and it bought me loyalty to Southgate even if he did destroy my childhood in 96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Needs to go, that was awful. No intensity, no urgency and we scraped a draw against an awful Scotland side I fear for us if we come up against a France or Italy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Whoever replaces Southgate will be worse. we just aren’t very good. You surround these average players with Agueros and they look amazing. The England side has never been better than any top half premier league side. of course we’ll get mullered by 8 or so teams in this competition. I have ZERO fkn idea what you lost expect out of our squad. for 20 years England have done naff all and have had a series of awful tournaments, or not even qualifying. mcclaren capello Hodgson the games against Iceland and algeria and the rest.... but nah nah, you lot, you geniuses, you football brainiacs have cracked it... it’s the bloke who took us to the World Cup final in 2018... that’s the problem. fk me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Malc Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 We have a more than capable attacking front line, who appear to being coached to not attack. Our strength is our forwards. Play to our strengths or F Off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Taz said: Whoever replaces Southgate will be worse. we just aren’t very good. You surround these average players with Agueros and they look amazing. The England side has never been better than any top half premier league side. of course we’ll get mullered by 8 or so teams in this competition. I have ZERO fkn idea what you lost expect out of our squad. for 20 years England have done naff all and have had a series of awful tournaments, or not even qualifying. mcclaren capello Hodgson the games against Iceland and algeria and the rest.... but nah nah, you lot, you geniuses, you football brainiacs have cracked it... it’s the bloke who took us to the World Cup final in 2018... that’s the problem. fk me Oh sorry My memory must be playing tricks I thought we got outplayed by a mediocre Croatia team in the semi final Must have forgot we won that game after all Edited June 18, 2021 by scram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 I’d love to have seen Venables with this squad and the attacking talent available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, scram said: Ramsey Robson Venables One world cup winner The other 2 lost semi finals on pens Wonder what the reception to Robson was after the group games in Italia 90 and the performance at Euro 88. Venables didn't have to qualify for Euro 96 and we were second best and lucky in the quarter final V Spain. Southgate has made some questionable decisions and is very much an FA man but who worth their salt would be England manager? club managers don't want the national job in their prime in the main. We've had really good teams and managers with better CV's in the past and have still failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, scram said: How many points has he got? Portugal won the last Euro's and probably played well once in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 What gets my goat the most is the mindset, it's so ridiculous. We played Croatia first game, who to a man I would not swap any of our players with on paper. We get a 1-0 win and it's like job done, great performance. We should be battering them. Scotland lost 2-0 to the Czech Republic, at home. And we have laboured to a 0-0. We come out and say well Scotland played well and were resilient. No they weren't, they didn't have to do anything. We barely mustered a chance. Southgate should be flying into them after that game, and make big changes against the Czechs. I think he's probably told them that a draw would be a good result though, and that's part of the problem. Luckily we probably have enough points to qualify now, but if we don't find a rythm to our game by the next game then we're going out early, again, because we're too bothered about maybe conceding than we are about using our attacking talent. Also, if I hear excuses about the weather or having played lots of games I'm going to mail a poo to the England dressing room after I've had a Mexican night. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Be careful what you wish for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Uttercrap Hit the post, Marshall saves from Mount Worth the price of admission Oh and take the best attacking option off to bring on a lad who provides the same Meanwhile, Kane is clearly not fit, sterling's form's off, and Mount is being told to not attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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