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1 minute ago, whowantstoberich said:

I don’t see why we should have to turn hillsborough into a runaround play centre to attract kids. The football is what we go for, I don’t recall any kids entertainment when I started going.


 

Football is changing and evolving 

 

You don’t just keep things as they are forever - you have to alter what you do to accommodate the change in lifestyles 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:


 

Football is changing and evolving 

 

You don’t just keep things as they are forever - you have to alter what you do to accommodate the change in lifestyles 

Well provide free wifi so they can sit on there devices at half time coz that’s all that they are interested in anyway 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:


 

Football is changing and evolving 

 

You don’t just keep things as they are forever - you have to alter what you do to accommodate the change in lifestyles 

 

The comments made related to 16-24 year olds.

 

Little kids are easy to take to games.

 

16-24 year olds who do attend games go for the party and everyone slags them off for chucking beer about in the concourse at half-time.

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1 minute ago, whowantstoberich said:

Well provide free wifi so they can sit on there devices at half time coz that’s all that they are interested in anyway 

 

Betting plays a massive part in modern football.  You used to go to the bookies or the Ladbrokes booth in my day.

 

You can in-play bet on your phone these days.

 

World’s moved on.

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1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said:

Its actually cheaper to fly to Borussia Dortmund and watch a game there (and you can have a drink and stand up on the terrace) than it is to travel to watch any of the "Big six games" in our own country ....

 

 

It really isnt

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1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said:

Its actually cheaper to fly to Borussia Dortmund and watch a game there (and you can have a drink and stand up on the terrace) than it is to travel to watch any of the "Big six games" in our own country ....

 

 

What you flying on a magic unicorn? 
 

It’s not cheaper by plane.

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15 minutes ago, BIG D said:

They advertise in the students union

Chansiri doubled ticket prices in the student unions when he took over.

 

I said at the time students would stop going and they have. Most people won't be bothered by that, and that's fine if really Wednesday have no interest in attracting students to watch games, but please don't pretend that DC did anything other than massively dissuade the student demographic in Sheffield.

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Lots of good points in this thread.

 

cost of transport a huge issue in the U.K. as well. The rail network pricing is a total mess, car insurance for the young is bonkers- add these in to the ticketing cost challenges and the experience of going - you can easily see the problems and a generation lost to football .

 

I of course would also add the absolute agony the young face at our games of the many beer bellied older fans  in Sanderson tops wanging on about the early 90’s at every single opportunity, and reminding younger fans how rubbish Sheffield Wednesday are now.  ‘ Barry bannan son? Don’t make me laugh, not fit to lace the boots of Hydey or Harksey - shall I tell thee  a tale of Blackbun away son and maybe then we talk about how my big house cost me 3 and 6’ 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, owlinexile said:

Football needs a complete reset; just in the exact opposite direction than these 'Super League' teams want.

 

At the moment, football is pure casino capitalism.  Buy a club on its uppers, run up a tonne of debt trying to get into the Premiership where you can actually make a profit, probably fail and waltz away from the smoking ruin you left behind.  

 

If you are a 'big' Premiership club, the exact same applies except instead of trying to get to the Premiership to survive you are trying to get in the Champions League.

 

The solution of these Americans is to seize ownership of the casino and make sure no one too 'lucky' is allowed in.  But all the excess and profiteering is to continue and actually be encouraged.

 

The ACTUAL solution is to remove the temptation.  It shouldn't be possible to make vast fortunes by owning a football club.  Football clubs should essentially be held in trust for the local community.  The owners are really 'trustees' and should be there to ensure the club is run sustainably within its operating budget and can continue to thrive into the future, not to enrich themselves.

 

Because that's the USP that's missing from actually going to a football match now - the community and sense of ownership.  It's not about the facilities, or what division you are in, or even particularly the football on offer.

 

I started going to football because my dad took me.  I have seen Wednesday in Europe, I have seen them have a decent crack at the First Division title.  I have seen us in League One twice now.  I have seen us at Wembley and Old Trafford and I have worried that the stand was going to fall down at Carlisle United.  I have watched us being represented by Chris Waddle and by Jay Bothroyd, Des Walker and Ashley Westwood.  Sublime passing skills and Megson hoof-ball.  The most enjoyable football experience I have ever had was probably a League One playoff final against Hartlepool United.

 

Because none of that stuff is actually what going to watch live football is about.  Football is about daft Saturday rituals and traditions with your dad or mates.  A shared sense of identity and pride in your community.  Proper hating those ******** from a couple of miles down the road who are exactly the same as you in every way and you will be best pals with again at school or work on Monday.  Immediately having shared experiences in common to talk about with complete strangers.  Feeling the bass vibrations of 20,000 people singing together coming up through your feet.

 

Football clubs, leagues and broadcasters have spent lots of money persuading people that football is not about that at all, and is actually about the BEST players in the BEST stadiums all competing against each other on Mount Olympus for the edification of us mere mortals.  Constantly telling everyone that football is better because the players are 'fitter' and have never been as technically proficient and how famous player 'x' would never make it in today's game.  Hordes of footballing 'intellectuals' who have never set foot in a football stadium arguing about pass completion rates and Expected Goals Against and how players passing it sideways in their own half for ages like that episode of the Simpsons is actually MORE entertaining somehow.

 

They chose to market football in that way because they realised that they could make far more money if millions of people watched it on TV rather than thousands in a stadium.  After decades of that message, they can hardly complain that young people would prefer to watch football on television rather than actually going to a match, and that they lack the same levels of 'brand loyalty' and enthusiasm that the so-called 'legacy fans' have.  That's what they wanted.  That's what they have got.

 

Chansiri could have a complete personality transplant and turn Hillsborough into a shining palace where it costs a tenner to get in, the toilets are spotless with built-in bidets and perfume dispensers, and you can even actually get a pie or a cup of tea at half time, and young people would still prefer to watch football on TV, because that's what football IS to them now.

 

 

 

 

Best post I have ever read on Owlstalk. Bravo sir.

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17 minutes ago, StudentOwl said:

Chansiri doubled ticket prices in the student unions when he took over.

 

I said at the time students would stop going and they have. Most people won't be bothered by that, and that's fine if really Wednesday have no interest in attracting students to watch games, but please don't pretend that DC did anything other than massively dissuade the student demographic in Sheffield.

 

I don't know mate, it probably was pre-Chansiri tbh. I took a picture at the time but can't find it.

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2 hours ago, T Hardy said:

I think most of us follow Wednesday because we always have, we inherited it, it’s ingrained into us, but I can safely say in my lifetime, there’s probably been 4 years in total where I would say it has been fun. The rest of the time, it has been miserable and felt like a chore. Who wants that?

 

Absolutely this.

 

Before I became a parent, I always hoped my future kids would be interested in football and I'd do all I could to ensure they were Owls - just like my dad did with me.

 

As one is about to turn 5 years old and the other about to turn 1, I just can't bring myself to inflict this sport and Wednesday on them any more. Whilst Wednesday have been a disappointment in the main all my life, that doesn't really matter to me. But, Christ, football these days is awful and unattractive - a far cry from what it was I was brought up with.

 

My eldest isn't remotely interested in football - when I watch the rare game on TV these days, he asks if we can put something else on! With regards to our baby, I'm not even going to make any effort to get him into football and Wednesday; mainly because these days, I, as a lifelong supporter and season ticket holder, can't even be bothered myself. If either start to show any interest, then I'll do what I can, but I won't actively be brainwashing them into football and Wednesday like generations previously have!

 

 

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